November 12, 2004
It's party time
It's hard not being a member of a political party. Hard and inefficient. When people talk politics they first establish their stances. This is very easy for a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green or Communist. When you know what party they support you immediately have a general idea of their political beliefs. You have an established starting point.
Now it's true that next to nobody embraces all of the party line but when you have that known starting point it is very easy to clarify your positions. "I'm a Republican but I support freedom of choice" or "I'm a Democrat but I think socialized medical care is the wrong way to go" or even "I'm a Libertarian but I have a sneaking suspicion that the complete elimination of government would be a bad move".
For those of us who can't identify enough with a party to claim membership it is very difficult to even get to a conversational starting point. Before our debate can begin we need to essentially outline our complete political viewpoint. How do you feel about abortion? How do you feel about welfare? How do you feel about progressive taxation? How do you feel about government subsidies, social security, proactive national defense, deficit spending, etceteras, etceteras, etceteras. It can take fifteen minutes of this before you're even at a point where you can start discussing issues.
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Ummm... Didn't we run for the presidential officer together?
It's called the Flying Pig party for some very legitimate reasons apart from the funness of having little piggies around all the time.
Posted by: Flibbertigibbet at November 13, 2004 08:16 PM (JbdZ9)
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Ah, but we didn't win. Not even a single percentage of the popular vote. Hell, we got less than Nader! How's that for embarrassing?
I think that one of our biggest problems (besides not getting on any ballots) was that we didn't really have a well defined party platform. People could piece together the basics from various posts but we didn't put out the clear message required by today's mentally limited proles. Um...I mean, today's detail oriented voters.
The Flying Pig emblem can sure stay but the party itself needs a name unifies and draws support. An inclusive name. Something that Jewish voters would feel comfortable with too. I mean really, could you picture Rabbi Herschowitz proudly declaring that he was a Flying Pig?
Posted by: Jim at November 14, 2004 10:08 AM (GCA5m)
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November 11, 2004
If George Bush is elected, I'm leaving!
Dopple-G here, everyone. I'm the source of much of Jim's inanity, but today I bring you a political rant all my own.
For the many who claimed that they were leaving the country if the challenger didnÂ’t win the presidential election, IÂ’d like to extend this opportunity to encourage them to follow through with that promise.
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Excuse my French here:
There is just no way I am accepting an apology from those idiots.Some of them have made my personal life so miserable,I wish they would just go to hell and hopefully burn there in all brightness.
Even though a lot of people beg to differ,I like to compare some of the Democrats with Nazis,who belong in Brazil or Argentina,maybe even Germany,but not in the USA.
After this election terror I have no good words left for many of those idiots and would peronally support DEPORTATION of such induviduals.
But I guess that would be unconstitutional.
On the contrary:I have offered to leave so the Democrats (those who can't shut up now because they can't take their loss)can bitch happily ever after and leave me the hell alone.But that wouldn't be fair to my family,so I elect weakness and stay (away from Democratic Fanatics).
Anyways.....nice Blog cousin!
Posted by: LW at November 11, 2004 12:55 PM (GCA5m)
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Didn't Michael Moore promise to move to France if Bush won? Could you uninvite him from staying please?
Thanks.
Posted by: Jim at November 11, 2004 01:16 PM (tyQ8y)
Posted by: pylorns at November 11, 2004 01:57 PM (FTYER)
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Hey! I am O-ffended by some of that!
1) I am selfish. Damn right. I'm always looking out for my own rational self-interest and no one else's. It's only rational, after all!
2) I am both intolerant and uncooperative, due largely to the fact that I only tolerate or cooperate when it's in my self-interest.
All those people who threatened to leave are... well... stupidheads! Yeah! They're stupidheads, that's what!
Posted by: Flibbertigibbet at November 11, 2004 04:40 PM (yaMs/)
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I didn't vote either Democratic or Republican, just common sense.
When the Democrats quit catering to the ultra-flaming liberal, extremist left, then maybe I'll think about voting for them again.
As far as Michael Moore is concerned, I think he belongs in North Georgia.
In the mountains.
In the company of some good ol' boys.
Bent over a log.
"C'mon boy, squeal! Squeal! SQUEEEEEAL!!!"
Posted by: diamond dave at November 11, 2004 05:18 PM (cHHMb)
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OH PLEASE!We livein North Georgia....if Moore moves here then I am DEFINATLY leaving!LOL
Posted by: LW at November 11, 2004 06:28 PM (GCA5m)
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OK then. Let's instead ship Michael Moore off to California.
In the back of some pawnshop.
Owned by a couple of good ol' boys.
"Bring out the Gimp".
Heheheheheh.
Ah darn. I got friends that live there. Hate to insult their intelligence.
Posted by: diamond dave at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM (cZY6q)
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Maybe he's got cousins in Virginia....
;-)
Posted by: LW at November 12, 2004 07:22 AM (GCA5m)
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Michael Moore should be shipped off to California, specifically Caltech, where he should be made a full professor. Why, you ask? Because it's not fair that MIT has to put up with Noam Chomsky and Caltech gets off scott-free.
Posted by: Ernie G at November 12, 2004 10:02 PM (GTUi2)
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November 10, 2004
Because it's good to have money
Ilyka is exploring the age old question of
what makes a person decide to be a Republican. For me it was pretty simple. When I was a young idealist (making no money) I was very much a Democrat, and proud of it. I thought that it was absolutely wonderful that the Democrats wanted to take care of all of my problems and fix all of the ills of the world. That was a concept I could really get behind!
But as I started to make more money I realized something. First, the Democrats didn't take care of my problems. Not a one. Zilch. Zero. Nada. I did it by myself. I realized something else. They didn't fix all of the ills of the world either. They really weren't fixing any of the world's ills.
But the government was taking my money. In larger and larger amounts. And the Democrats wanted to take even more to fund all of these wonderful problems that never helped me or mine and these other huge programs that never fixed the world's ills.
The more I made, the more they took. But no matter how much of my money they took they still weren't taking care of me and they still weren't fixing the world's ills.
I got pissed. I got Republican. They had loads of bogus promises too but the big one was that they didn't want to keep taking more and more of my money. They wanted a smaller government without so many useless programs that required less money out of my pocket to throw into the great bureaucratic black hole of incompetence. That rocked!
I've toned back quite a bit since then. By this time in my life I'm more of a lower case "l" libertarian than anything else. Perhaps a good description would be "moderate disestablishmentarianist". If the government was completely scaled back to the point where they didn't screw with my life at all unless I was in the process of screwing with somebody else, and vice versa, I'd be perfectly happy.
So long as they stopped taking my money of course.
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What does it say about me that I was VERY conservative in highschool. Slightly Conservative in college. And now a free-market radical as an adult?
I think fans of Chris Tucker have some ideas about that...
(Sorry for referencing my own blog...Well, not VERY sorry.)
Posted by: Flibbertigibbet at November 10, 2004 10:36 AM (yaMs/)
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It means that you are serving the side of EVIL!
And you're probably pretty far up in the heirarchy, seeing as you've had such an extended tenure.
Posted by: Jim at November 10, 2004 12:18 PM (tyQ8y)
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Hmmm... Now I'm wondering how I can get to be more Evil.
MWA HA HA HA HAAAA!
Posted by: Flibbertigibbet at November 10, 2004 07:30 PM (vXJl7)
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hmm,
My slide away from Democrats has had nothing to do with money; if anything I'd sit tight with the Democrats on that issue---I feel a moral obligation to help those who don't have as much money, and taxes benefit many, not just the poor. It is the exclusionary features of the Democrats that generate my anger---traditional morals are out.
Posted by: Rachel Ann at November 11, 2004 02:58 AM (OnNyU)
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November 09, 2004
Purple America
Everybody has seen the map of America with the red states and the blue states and it makes it look like the coasts versus everybody else. Get
a bit more granular and a whole different picture emerges. We're all just shades of purple.
(Hat tip to Dopple-G)
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Overheard at work
While waiting for the elevator in the front lobby I overheard this conversation:
Old (very old) Lady: ...but he's NOT on the side of good. He's on the side of EVIL!
Security Guard: But he's...
Old (very old) Lady: (Interrupting) He's evil! You can't support something that's evil!
Security Guard: I don't think...
Old (very old) Lady: (Interrupting) I don't care if he did win the election. He'll never be my president!
Security Guard: It's not like you have a whole lot of choice at this point.
Old (very old) Lady: The hell I don't! I'm fighting for the side of good. I'll fight everything he does! And so will every other good Democrat!
Security Guard: (mutters)
I don't know what the muttering was but I can guess that it was along the lines of "Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of, you crazy old bat."
Thankfully this isn't a person I work with. From the looks of her she wandered in for a captive ear, knowing that the security guard couldn't leave the front desk area. My elevator got there at this point so I don't know how the security guard managed to end the conversation. They are armed with tasers and batons though so we can always hope...
(Credit for "Overheard" theme goes to Flibby. Here's a recent example of his handiwork in the arena.)
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November 06, 2004
November 03, 2004
The final flip-flop
"We are not going to give up until the last vote is counted."
"We give up."
Okay, it was a cheap shot but I couldn't resist. Kerry could have protracted things and extended the exceptional division that has marked this election. After some time to look things over and examine the options and probable repercussions he chose not to do so. Now lets see if they can put those thousands of lawyers back into Pandora's box.
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Im glad he didnt try to fight anything. It would really piss off the country.
Posted by: pylorns at November 03, 2004 02:22 PM (FTYER)
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It's good to have you back Jim - I have laughed out loud in a while now...
Posted by: Clancy at November 03, 2004 06:23 PM (lJX9L)
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I'm proud of the fact that the deciding votes where Ohio. Well... not the mess, but, the whole stick it to em' thing.
Ohio made me nervous for awhile especially living in Cuyahoga County and most of the votes where for Kerry. But, all in all I'm proud of Ohio.
Posted by: Tiffani at November 05, 2004 01:23 PM (xpNFK)
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Official Election Statement
We at the Flying Pig party would like to thank all of our supporters for the hard work they did during this exciting presidential campaign. It was a good run, hard fought, and dearly paid for.
The contest was close but our analysts tell us that it is statistically impossible for us to pull in Ohio. To avoid the trials and tribulations of a protracted and divisive struggle we are conceding the Presidential race. We will not contest ballots in heavily Piggish districts nor will we file lawsuit after lawsuit in a pathetic attempt to escape the inevitable.
This is a time for healing the self-inflicted wounds that split our country during this highly charged election. A time to make rational thought and cooperation our goals. A time to erase the tri-partisan nature of our politics and make our government simply partisan.
Don't lose heart my friends. The Flying Pig party is still strong and dedicated. We will be back again in 2008 when next these elections come around. In the meantime we fully intend to support President Nader in any way possible and encourage all Piggies to do the same.
Thank you for your support,
Jim Peacock
Former Vice Presidential Candidate, Flying Pig Party
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2008!
If it weren't for our last-minute candidate change, we would have had this in the bag.
Posted by: Flibbertigibbet at November 03, 2004 12:59 PM (yaMs/)
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You were robbed. You had at least one vote in Hong Kong, but it didn't show up on CNN.
Posted by: Simon at November 04, 2004 12:05 AM (OyeEA)
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Well he had a vote from Israel also. I'm writing an angry letter off to fox and cnn.
Heck, I'll just write off a whole lot of angry bitter letters.
(can I run in 08? I'll let you get top billing!)
Posted by: Rachel Ann at November 04, 2004 05:35 AM (0uyki)
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"to pull in Ohio".
That means something very different to the English/Aussies/New Zealanders

Are you trying to be elected, or get laid?
Posted by: Helen at November 04, 2004 06:15 AM (hT/v7)
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Flibby - If only we hadn't lost Florida we would have had a chance. We'll get 'em next time.
Simon - That's normal. Absentee ballots generally aren't counted for several after the election. I'm sure it'll show up in the final numbers.
Rachel Ann - We can use all the help we can get and I'm sure we could find a cabinet level position for you. How does Secretary of State sound?
Helen - Why not both? It worked for Clinton.
Posted by: Jim at November 05, 2004 05:42 AM (GCA5m)
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November 02, 2004
It's all in the timing
Waiting time to vote this morning was close to two hours. Later in the day it was still an hour plus. I left work at 4:30 and got to my polling location at 5:15 (did I tell you that I'm a commuter now? Yay).
No line. None. I was in and out in just a couple of minutes. The handful of people there with me were laughing and joking, their fear of a lengthy wait dissipated and leaving them lighthearted and lightheaded.
I'm assuming there was a lot of lightheadedness in the 4th Congressional district where they elected the shame of Georgia Cynthia McKinney again.
The moral of the story? Procrastination pays.
Got a minute? Why not stop by the Flying Space Monkey's totally unscientific but still relatively impartial exit poll?
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Took me all of 5 minutes to vote just down the road in Grayson at 4:30. Even got in some rare exercise, walked the half-mile from home to the polling place. Had to walk off all that purloined Halloween candy, somehow...
Posted by: diamond dave at November 02, 2004 11:52 PM (0gB9X)
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